Comments on: Spending some time with the Wii Motion Plus http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: anonymous http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-43831 anonymous Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:01:00 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-43831 me anonymous again and i dont tink that there is a backwards compatibility option if the game doesnt support the motion plus, think about if the game wasnt made to recognize the motion plus then it probably won't, the only hack i can think of is patching the game itself, but i could be wrong about this whole post, you should do some research of ur own. me anonymous again and i dont tink that there is a backwards compatibility option if the game doesnt support the motion plus, think about if the game wasnt made to recognize the motion plus then it probably won’t, the only hack i can think of is patching the game itself, but i could be wrong about this whole post, you should do some research of ur own.

]]> By: anonymous http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-43830 anonymous Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:54:00 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-43830 you made this article a long tim ago didn't you, wii sports resort is already out and red steal 2 wich uses the motion plus. red steel 2 is a revolutionary game the controls are so realistic and acurate (besides an ocasional miss read, or so ive heard) right now i have red steal 2 on usb loader gx working flawlessly but im just waiting on a motion plus in the mail from ebay, (i havent actually used it, this should be a blast playing red steal 2) and your all right it is what the wii remote should have been from the get go. but the motion pluses are only aroud $10 on ebay including the shipping, if your willing to wait a few weeks as far as i know there all from hongkong and take a while to mail. you made this article a long tim ago didn’t you, wii sports resort is already out and red steal 2 wich uses the motion plus. red steel 2 is a revolutionary game the controls are so realistic and acurate (besides an ocasional miss read, or so ive heard) right now i have red steal 2 on usb loader gx working flawlessly but im just waiting on a motion plus in the mail from ebay, (i havent actually used it, this should be a blast playing red steal 2) and your all right it is what the wii remote should have been from the get go. but the motion pluses are only aroud $10 on ebay including the shipping, if your willing to wait a few weeks as far as i know there all from hongkong and take a while to mail.

]]> By: Timmy http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-37841 Timmy Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:43:49 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-37841 I saw that too, it is a typo, you do NOT have to go to the home menu to initialize the controllers. You do have to have all the controllers 'linked' to a "home wii" console. But this is only done once (the first time you ever ised that controller with that WII console) and involves the red reset button inside the WII mote's battery compartment. After that you need to go to the pause menu, choose wii mote options, then press 1 and 2 button on each controller when prompted to do so. p.s. Didier, you all have terrible writing skills. i am an amateur author with basic education, therefore, i make mistakes as well. You must be lazy or stupid. I saw that too, it is a typo, you do NOT have to go to the home menu to initialize the controllers. You do have to have all the controllers ‘linked’ to a “home wii” console. But this is only done once (the first time you ever ised that controller with that WII console) and involves the red reset button inside the WII mote’s battery compartment. After that you need to go to the pause menu, choose wii mote options, then press 1 and 2 button on each controller when prompted to do so.

p.s. Didier, you all have terrible writing skills. i am an amateur author with basic education, therefore, i make mistakes as well. You must be lazy or stupid.

]]> By: Tommy http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-36300 Tommy Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:59:20 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-36300 I bougt 3 additional motion plus. But I can only play with two of them.... they telling me to initialize the ohter two in the home menu... But there isnt a setting to do so... Can anybody helb me to get the other two remotes workin'? Thanx in advance! I bougt 3 additional motion plus. But I can only play with two of them…. they telling me to initialize the ohter two in the home menu… But there isnt a setting to do so… Can anybody helb me to get the other two remotes workin’? Thanx in advance!

]]> By: mark http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-34572 mark Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:13:48 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-34572 In a perfect world it would have been like this on day one. But back then, the technology was too expensive and too bulky from what I hear. The same thing is being said about MS's project Natal. How much will it cost? Look how much cheaper the Blu Ray is compared to when the PS3 launched. There was no way people would spend $150 on each wii mote so we got a half hearted version which seemed fairly capable till the WM+. I'm happy with that since I only have to spend $20 more to upgrade or get it bundled. Pretty stupid to say this is the way it should have been on day one - you could say that about everything (looks at 1GB hardrive PC from 1996). In a perfect world it would have been like this on day one. But back then, the technology was too expensive and too bulky from what I hear. The same thing is being said about MS’s project Natal. How much will it cost? Look how much cheaper the Blu Ray is compared to when the PS3 launched. There was no way people would spend $150 on each wii mote so we got a half hearted version which seemed fairly capable till the WM+. I’m happy with that since I only have to spend $20 more to upgrade or get it bundled. Pretty stupid to say this is the way it should have been on day one – you could say that about everything (looks at 1GB hardrive PC from 1996).

]]> By: Hungry Horace http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-34430 Hungry Horace Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:58:58 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-34430 Does anybody na where i can get a canny bag of chips like? Does anybody na where i can get a canny bag of chips like?

]]> By: Wii Sports Resort http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-34255 Wii Sports Resort Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:28:43 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-34255 [...] in your hand, you’ve actually got to get up and do things while using the Wii. The Wii MotionPlus was introduced a little bit ago and made the Wii controller more sensitive to the users movements, [...] [...] in your hand, you’ve actually got to get up and do things while using the Wii. The Wii MotionPlus was introduced a little bit ago and made the Wii controller more sensitive to the users movements, [...]

]]> By: Jeff http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-33567 Jeff Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:04:02 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-33567 I've worked with making some computer games using the wiimote's via a bluetooth server. As far as backwards compatibility I don't think it's something they could do with a firmware update. With the original controller we got data, now there is just more data, combining this together is what makes it more accurate. One game I made was a drumming game, I could tell when someone snapped the remote, but determining if it snapped on a downstroke or an upstroke was impossible. Orientation could be determined when the remote was stationary or being slowly moved, but once quick movement occurred the accelerometers would top out orientation was impossible to determine. This put a huge amount of limitations on the device, and made for some very inaccurate responses. The idea that Nintendo would design the interface for reading the raw data is a bad idea, this would severely limit the possibilities that developers would have for interaction. The best solution would just be that game released patches for motion plus support, but that's not going to happen for many financial reasons. For now we should just look at this as the second era of the wii, the one we all thought was going to start at launch. I’ve worked with making some computer games using the wiimote’s via a bluetooth server. As far as backwards compatibility I don’t think it’s something they could do with a firmware update. With the original controller we got data, now there is just more data, combining this together is what makes it more accurate. One game I made was a drumming game, I could tell when someone snapped the remote, but determining if it snapped on a downstroke or an upstroke was impossible. Orientation could be determined when the remote was stationary or being slowly moved, but once quick movement occurred the accelerometers would top out orientation was impossible to determine. This put a huge amount of limitations on the device, and made for some very inaccurate responses. The idea that Nintendo would design the interface for reading the raw data is a bad idea, this would severely limit the possibilities that developers would have for interaction. The best solution would just be that game released patches for motion plus support, but that’s not going to happen for many financial reasons. For now we should just look at this as the second era of the wii, the one we all thought was going to start at launch.

]]> By: Chris Cross http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-33332 Chris Cross Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:19:50 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-33332 This link should answer all your questions regarding Gyros and Wii Motion+ http://invensense.com/applications/gaming/wii-motionplus/wii-motion-plus.html This link should answer all your questions regarding Gyros and Wii Motion+
http://invensense.com/applications/gaming/wii-motionplus/wii-motion-plus.html

]]> By: Marin http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-32980 Marin Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:16:52 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-32980 As a reaction on the backwards compatibility discussion: I agree that some things simply can't be changed after a game has been developed, but if nintendo would've provided a good API that provided wiimote motion information to a game, i.e. the sensor information would be interpreted by nintendo, (which would be a good design decision imho) they could've simply changed their own code. It's not like the transition from gamecube to wii: normal controls to motion controls, but it's the transition from motion controls to more sensitive motion controls. Apparently game programmers had to interpret the wiimote sensor data themselves, so the old games can't benefit from the M+. Too bad, would've definitely gotten one otherwise. As a reaction on the backwards compatibility discussion:

I agree that some things simply can’t be changed after a game has been developed, but if nintendo would’ve provided a good API that provided wiimote motion information to a game, i.e. the sensor information would be interpreted by nintendo, (which would be a good design decision imho) they could’ve simply changed their own code. It’s not like the transition from gamecube to wii: normal controls to motion controls, but it’s the transition from motion controls to more sensitive motion controls.

Apparently game programmers had to interpret the wiimote sensor data themselves, so the old games can’t benefit from the M+. Too bad, would’ve definitely gotten one otherwise.

]]> By: beanz http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-32805 beanz Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:44:33 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-32805 I have 4 controls and 2 wm+ units.. you do NOT need to remove the wm+ to play games that do not 'support' it. I have 4 controls and 2 wm+ units.. you do NOT need to remove the wm+ to play games that do not ‘support’ it.

]]> By: Hoongming http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-32804 Hoongming Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:01:34 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-32804 I own the M+ and can tell you that it does not interfere with your existing games, so you can keep it plugged in, even if you are playing Super Mario Galaxy. Naturally, the M+ extension will make your controller too long to fit inside your peripherals, so you'll probably have to either detach it or just not use your peripherals. I dont own any of these peripherals and still play Mario Kart and House of the Dead just fine. I own the M+ and can tell you that it does not interfere with your existing games, so you can keep it plugged in, even if you are playing Super Mario Galaxy. Naturally, the M+ extension will make your controller too long to fit inside your peripherals, so you’ll probably have to either detach it or just not use your peripherals. I dont own any of these peripherals and still play Mario Kart and House of the Dead just fine.

]]> By: Goze211 http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-32716 Goze211 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:33:40 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-32716 To clarify, do you need to remove the M+ part to play something like Super Mario Galaxy? Or is it only games that use a peripheral tha the wiimote fits into such as steering wheel or gun? To clarify, do you need to remove the M+ part to play something like Super Mario Galaxy? Or is it only games that use a peripheral tha the wiimote fits into such as steering wheel or gun?

]]> By: Quinn http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-32673 Quinn Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:55:51 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-32673 The author obviously has no idea how software is made. I agree that Nintendo was a little short sighted in not making the Wiimote have MotionPlus control from the get go, but to complain that they wont "update firmware" to allow older game use the MotionPlus, is a just a poor argument. MotionPlus is new hardware sir, thus current games today would have to have to somehow have it programed to use the hardware. Wanting yesterday's games to magically take advantage fo the MotionPlus, is as absurd of a comment as saying I want Gamecube games to take advantage fo the Wiimote. Also in case your wondering, the MotionPlus adds in a inertia sensitive chip. The Wiimote uses Accelerometer which could only detect orientation and speed. Inertia sensors h ever read as very sensitive to movement, reporting back to console speed and direction. inertia sensors can not tell you anything about orientation, which is why we still need the accelerometers. The author obviously has no idea how software is made. I agree that Nintendo was a little short sighted in not making the Wiimote have MotionPlus control from the get go, but to complain that they wont “update firmware” to allow older game use the MotionPlus, is a just a poor argument.

MotionPlus is new hardware sir, thus current games today would have to have to somehow have it programed to use the hardware. Wanting yesterday’s games to magically take advantage fo the MotionPlus, is as absurd of a comment as saying I want Gamecube games to take advantage fo the Wiimote.

Also in case your wondering, the MotionPlus adds in a inertia sensitive chip. The Wiimote uses Accelerometer which could only detect orientation and speed. Inertia sensors h ever read as very sensitive to movement, reporting back to console speed and direction. inertia sensors can not tell you anything about orientation, which is why we still need the accelerometers.

]]> By: brandon http://blog.testfreaks.com/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/comment-page-1/#comment-32650 brandon Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:57:45 +0000 http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/spending-some-time-with-the-wii-motion-plus/#comment-32650 maybe nintendo wii designers were not forward-thinking enough to make a controller API general enough so that old games would be automatically improved with motion plus. My point: its might not be possible to make old games compatible, unless games rewritten maybe nintendo wii designers were not forward-thinking enough to make a controller API general enough so that old games would be automatically improved with motion plus.

My point: its might not be possible to make old games compatible, unless games rewritten

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